From reading here, it looks like disclosing phone numbers is just an additional way of eventually breaking you down. We have starving, homelessness, government corruption. Our Constitution is being dismantled before our eyes, but this will be one stand we'll make and keep encouranging others to do the same. You have a file and they are trying to use changes in your life situation to justify government programs. You wouldn't be getting personal visits and/or phone calls from these Census workers right now. Emails from the Census Bureau are sent from the official @census.gov domain. and they are the ones who should be paying extra taxes for that. Have no fear. Has anyone really admittedly shown that proof that they got fined? I answered only the necessary information on the first census, then was mailed the ever intrusive ACS. It's paranoid people like you all who cause your communities not to get the funding they need. Actually: for thoe who think you can merely fill out the form and not be called, that's a lie! Due to a likely technicality, I received this, with the wrong address. She informed me that I only had to answer a few questions, and could she come in? The assertion by census workers that there is a simple fine of $5,000.00 for not providing the info is total crap! A week later, the same worker showed up and said it was my last chance or I could be fined and possibly jailed. Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions? The way I see it, subsections a and d of section 141 do not authorize a January 2010 collection of information. The Census Act of 1976 specifically prohibits the use of statistical sampling in the creation of congressional districts. Call your senators and congressman now and lets get these commie creeps out of our lives and off our backs. This is a bunch of crap. Firm, clear refusal. If you still haven't submitted the survey, you may get a call. I noticed that if I left the note on the door, they would sometimes pull up, then just drive off. So go ahead and fill it out 235. Poster 209: I believe that it is better to clearly refuse up front. Three days later, the supervisor came out. I would feel dirty if I accepted a job with the census. Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. Would I really be fined or imprisoned? I just received the ACS survey and will not be sending it in. But not allthat other information. A mortgage deduction should indicate I own a house; a 1099 with either unemployment compensation or reported income would indicate whether I am unemployed or self-employed. Anyway, this guy knocked twice or three time so I ignored him. Since when has the Federal government come to my door or anyone elses and said "We want to help you get your road paved" or any other helpful act, and then asked me for my help by filling out a form to prove the necessity? I hung up. I don't want abuse from anyone, least of all from those who were once subject to the people and who now act as if they are the elite. Now I wish I hadn't answered her on the phone. This is not for every citizen, so we will not participate. this is the letter I sent the census bureau. As a note, we live in a small, rural town so that may make a difference in whether it's worth the effort for them to continue demanding the information. We need to take our country back. I just got a pretty harassing phone call from a census lady, who said I would be fined if I didn't fill this crap out. Surgo polled more than 2,500 U.S. health care workers to assess their comfort in getting vaccinated. They just closed one of the best schools in the area, and nobody surveyed me to ask if I cared about that! Ultimately, you might just need to either answer the census to get them to stop coming or, as an alternative, make up answers to protect your privacy. The 24-page survey, which can be found on the Bureau's website, is sent out to about 2.5% of the American population to collect statistical information for city planning. They can't take my free will. we demand a trial by jury of our pears, but how many wiggle, squirm and lie every which way to get out of serving when it's their turn? Since the threats appear to completely empty then at this point the consequences are null and void. A tactic that is used too frequently in our society as a means of control. Any and all information that you provide in answer to a Census Bureau survey or census is strictly confidential. After a couple of weeks of harassing phone calls and knocks on my door, I sent the following letter, after which the harassment finally stopped. He has trouble with all these things. This is especially true if you have already returned your regular census form. LOL. I have written both my senators, Warner and Webb of Virginia, and stated my refusal to comply with the ACS. Poster 235 is on to something: maybe my neighborhood can get a new school, a new hospital, and a new fire station. Does this person have difficulty doing errands alone such as doctor's visits or shopping? I say the heck with Big Brother, ours is going in the garbage, and I'm no longer answering their calls (love caller ID)! Wow. And finally, to the person who looked up the Census rep's name then mentioned her husband had called and wanted her to stop at the store so she looked at him in shock? It's not good politics. Just got my second second ACS survey in the last three years. The American Community Survey is sent to 1 in 38 homes in the U.S. each year. A previous post said this is the American Communist survey. We were hired to call people who did not respond and we left messages on answering machines. 1. If you are a business person you could benefit from having accurate demographic information for the United States. Some hypothesize that the Census Bureau will not take legal action against, or pursue fines for, noncompliance with the ACS because doing so would likely attract much negative media attention. Its purpose is to keep people informed of what is going on in their local, state, or federal governments. The less you say to them the faster they stop bothering you. (812) 218-3144, Jeffersonville Contact Center. The courts have held the Census form is not a constitutional invasion of privacy and is allowed per the constitution itself. Report. Millions of dollars wasted! I got a call last night from the Census folks, wanting to know our birthdays. They can send me the 2010 census with their 10 questions that I am required to answer and I will. I was going to fill it out and check "race: other, American" but now I just don't even want to fill the dang thing out. Here are the facts I discovered: Some of the questions asked in this questionnaire are so intrusive that I would not even give this information to my best friends or relatives. It feels good to see so many of you willing to take a stand against this invasion of privacy. Are they too dense to realize that word just means "to count?". These tabulations are used to determine how many representatives each state has in Congress. Search the Census Bureau Staff Directory to find the contact information for our employees. The calls started Wednesday. And you just know that if I answer a survey about college, they will just send me another next year and keep tracking me. Yet, under the direct tax formula imposed by the Constitution, both states would be required to pay the same amount. I did call the police on them. Good for Michele Bachmann for saying she wasn't filling this out. Shame it's only once every ten years. Granted, I'm sure they can find it, but the census would have had to use some powers beyond their department to find it, since I intentionally left that form blank on the 2010 census. Their bosses are going like it even less. You may have noticed over the past week on the news, many articles about the new situation in American families where the wife is now the major bread winner/wage earner. This is plain wrong! Perhaps the people who did not answer the questions do not want to end up like the Japanese Americans did during World War II when the census was used to track them down, and it took 50 years to find out about it! Don't get mad because many of us don't want to fill out the form. I went through this myself and I read a Web forum that spanned several years with posters who had received the form, and what they had experienced. On saturday he returned but I did not answer the door. Thanks, Jenny Reply 1 Upvote GLC Jun 27, 2018 9:43 AM Follow How to Reverse Email Opt-Out Answer (1 of 5): Idk what the punishment is but I started filling it out. How will my information be protected? If anyone would love to start a case action in this matter feel free to get a hold of me. There is absolutely no possibility they can guarantee this information will not be disseminated to others or exposed to malevolent wrongdoers. so the census workers who say, "if you haven't done anything wrong, just answer," well, people who are doing wrong things don't care about america -- they work for the government. Any opt-out mechanism you offer must be able to process opt-out requests for at least 30 days after you send your message. Oh, the reason he came back? It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. We aren't answering these questions for anyone unless they show up and arrest me and a judge makes me do it in court. In July, I started to receive visits. That didn't go over to well and he told me that I was refusing to comply with a government agency and wouldn't get my money back. 2. I received a phone call from the bureau asking me to read them the info because there were only two days left to respond. Recipients of the American Community Survey are told several times that the information given is necessary for the operation of our government, is very secure and is kept private. The provision for the Census is found in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the Constitution. They have done a great job keeping businesses from behaving unethically, unsafely, and preventing them from attaining wealth at the cost of human life - whether from unfair wages and industrial practices or from the mass-physiological effects (brainwashing) of citizens from the huge-budget video/audio buy-buy-buy television addiction machine, or from the shortening of each human life and the human race entirely that is the natural result of reallocating, changing, destroying natural resources to produce worthless tidbits of crap (no matter how "convenient or interesting or entertaining it may seem in the end it is crap and it won't make you happy or more lovable or life more simple or whatever their marketing department's angle is -- it is just crap that is killing all of us and wasting all those workers' lives). After notifying you in advance by mail about a survey, the Census Bureau provides options by which you can participate. In the case of direct taxes (a direct tax is a tax on property based on ownership), this provision requires Congress to apportion the tax among the individual States based on population. In the end, the Census Bureau has the legal authority to conduct the survey and legally has the option of imposing fines for non-compliance. I ignored all of them. Thank Gosh, I documented every call and person I spoke with. What you say is true. Find out how we keep that promise and our legal obligation to you. The name of the Census Bureau survey is provided in one or more of the following ways: Your participation is critical. In addition to conducting the decennial census count, the Census Bureau oversees many surveys that are generally completed in-person, by mail, online, or by telephone. He had to come through a closed gate. If you wish to independently confirm that the person at your door is a Census Bureau field representatives conducting a household survey = you can enter their name in the Census Bureausstaff searchwebsite, or contact theRegional Officefor your state. It's just like a bunch of whiners. 12286: Don't worry, and don't respond. This is just crap. I firmly told her I had no intention of filling out the survey as I felt it was no one's business. I put up with some minor harassment and then after a few weeks it stopped. I think when they show up at my door, I will tell them I am house sitting for the owners who are out of town for the next six months. Then, the phone calls started and they won't stop. So before you go crying about your rights being violated, try actually reading the document that has given you these rights. The census person came back by a week later. Documents received by the couple from the bureau also tell the couple that they are legally obligated to. Does anyone know? "the point that seems most lost here is that households chosen for ACS are just part of a statistical sample that is representative of the country as a whole". According to the survey, 23% of vehicle manufacturers and suppliers consider relocating production. Life lived in paranoia and bitterness is not worth living. What is the legal authority for conducting this survey? This warning is clearly stated on the ACS envelope, and the form itself threatens a fine for people who refuse or willfully neglect to complete the survey. Get on with your life and answer the census. I would never be pleasant with someone who intentionally makes a living trying to make my life unpleasant. They had been to my house (outside) and told me this was coming. Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. After they fill out the form, I seriously doubt they think about you ever again. She was asking the questions again and I told her that I already filled out the form so there is no reason for me to fill it out again. I'm so glad I read this. It is pages and pages of personal questions. I am not saying that the US government would or could ever go to this extreme but, for the purposes of garnering ever more political power and authority over the citizenry, I have no illusions about how far this government will go. Just slam the phone or door on them. Don't touch them and if they do touch you, even slightly, fall down and don't get up until an ambulance arrives. We keep refusing them and they keep threatening us. Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. Data from the American Community Survey is available but only the information regarding current marital status is included in the data files. I have been harassed day and night. If the federal government had been granted the general power to make inquires into the private affairs of the American people through the Census or a congressional mandated survey, then the Supreme Court could not have made this ruling. Video camera is by the door for the on-site contact which will be next. He harassed her a little and had fun with it and she was on her way. What do you really think they use the information for? I'll give you potential issues with being counted. You have no idea. Begin your survey with an introduction that explains the purpose of the survey, what will happen to the data and who the research benefits (E.g. One month ago, I received a letter stating that the census was coming. Two days later, I was standing on my porch. I looked the form up online and balked at the intrusiveness of the question. I thought the census only took place every 10 years. Received two survey forms, three letters and two visits at my door and awaiting a third based on a lovely letter I received yesterday announcing yet another visit. To read more about a particular survey's purpose and significance, you can search the Census Bureau's list of surveys. I, too, have been harassed by the Census Bureau. It is also known that the Bureau inadvertently posted sensitive information of over 300 innocent citizens. and gently close the door. It is just such a sick country now. The last thing the execs at the Census Bureau want to see is a video of one of their "enumerators" on YouTube, the Six O'clock News, or in Congress or a courtroom harassing and threatening a citizen/voter with a big fine or jail time if that person refuses to give out the personal details of his life to a perfect stranger. If you have other privacy questions about a communication you received from Medallia, please contact the company on whose behalf Medallia contacted you. The right to privacy is also inherent in many amendments to the Bill of Rights, such as the 3rd, the 4th, search and seizure and the 5th, self incrimination limit. I wonder how many of those opposing census questions will annually volunteer much more private information and their personal wealth to a real evil unconstitutional organization - the IRS. Help for Survey Participants. Lumoa. You wonder why people are reluctant to give out information. That is how they get "past the guard". *Respondents may Reply "Stop" to opt out of receiving text messages. 1388. He said he'd have the "government guy" contact me the next day. The American Community Survey (ACS) is an ongoing survey that provides data every year -- giving communities the current information they need to plan investments and services. Staff Directory. The employees of the Nazi Gestapo and Brownshirts said the same thing. I am a tax paying, hard working citizen, who would die fighting for my country and my rights, but didn't our forefathers already settle this fight? Don't remember getting the long form but if I did, I would have tossed it unopened since I already did my duty filling out the census and mailing it in. The U.S. Census has nothing to do with Obama nor most of the accusations you are flippantly throwing up online. Section 3571 and Section 3559, which amends Title 13 U.S.C. There's no excuse for making a living out of trying to intimidate American citizens and using lies about the law to create a threatening and harassing atmosphere on one's own private property. He told me that my info was not received and that he would be sending it back out in the mail. Actual enumeration is required. Just remember that most of these people are decent people who need money to eat just like the rest of us, especially in these hard times. What I want to know for sure is: Can they make, force, and punish you for not filling out this thing? After reading many of the earlier posts, I feel I am doing the right thing by not returning the survey. The next day I got an e-mail saying that the "government guy" was OK with it and that I should return the form. Ridiculous. When I said I would not be probed by his questions from the government and continued by saying that I meant no disrespect to him; however, I hate what the government is trying to do to us he responded. I said I may have the second one, but discarded the first as a scam attempt. If anything, they could have made it easier for us all so we wouldn't have to be in debt for years just to get an education. so i would be prepared. my wife and I pay our taxes and feel if that's not enough for our government, then "Too bad Charlie". I told them there is a problem if they are not getting their mail. I am a nurse, taxpaying honest citizen and I will not be forced into answering these obscene questions! To support any of this is not like killing, it is killing your neighbor, your dog, your wife, your kids and your kids' kids - maybe slowly and with pretty lights and shiny trinkets, but it is. This government is OUT OF CONTROL! Washington and California residents have filed a proposed class action in which they object to being asked to participate in the American Community Survey, which enquires about certain demographic details more specific than those central to the decennial Census. Have you ever filed taxes? I am getting bothered by the census people now and what really annoys me to death is that I look all over the place and see all these people with basement apartments making tons of money off the books. this person got in the building somehow! I see a lot of people have more courage than me. For location-based community surveys, you need to narrow your focus to a small region, for example, Austin, Texas. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. You are! I feel that a class action lawsuit should be started. If they want more personal financial information, then I suggest they get it from the IRS. With Halloween right around the corner, how about scare the crap out of them. I guess the fear that they may be prosecuted for trespassing on private property wasn't worth the questionnaire. In addition to the decennial census count, the Census Bureau also manages many surveys that provide valuable information for the country on a variety of subjects, including education, health care, crime, housing, employment, and government spending. In three weeks they should mail me a duplicate form. When she called tonight at my employer, I told her I was moving. I am sickened by all of it. Call your local U.S. congress member. Let's see if she comes back for her shower. Clearly our government is out of control by trying to intimidate citizens to comply with this survey. We didn't receive phone calls first, we had two visits at 7 p.m. from this lady with her little laptop. Also, someone please answer this question: How can the census determine how many illegals are in the US, when they don't pay taxes, use our social security numbers, etc.? The states collect the tax and turn the money over to the federal government. and these so called representatives. If they harass you with phone calls change your number before they do the census and keep it unlisted. All information that we collect from our participants is strictly confidential and used only for statistical purposes. We do not share your information with anyone, including other federal agencies, and do not publish any information about individual households or businesses. Thank you for your time and attention to this, and I expect this matter to be closed. And if they threaten you, video record all of this exchange. All selected households and businesses are chosen according to scientific statistical methods. The chamber even voted in 2012 to eliminate the survey altogether! I will not be returning her call. What Percent of the US Population do Lawyers Comprise. *Medical accuracy is not specifically outlined in state statue, rather it is required by the New Jersey Department of Education, Comprehensive Health and Physical Education Student Learning Standards. Who knows what other "enemy" nations also have it. The survey taker shows up at the residence unannounced to request that the resident comply with the survey or otherwise face potential legal repercussions. You can find no instance of someone being 'required' to respond, or being fined for not doing so. Are you willing to roll the dice that this information will remain protected? They must have found it because I heard no more but neither did I get an apology. For household surveys, the Census Bureau uses two contact centers, one in Jeffersonville, Indiana and the other in Tucson, Arizona. I hung up immediately and called the sheriff. The efforts to secure a response to ACS seem fairly on the mark, but the point that seems most lost here is that households chosen for ACS are just part of a statistical sample that is representative of the country as a whole. How can a census do any good for schools when these people are never turned away from schools and hospitals and welfare lines? I have yet to fill one out. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. As a university student in my early 20s, I returned to school after the summer and mid-semester was called down to my dorm supervisor's office one night. This site provides answers about our surveys and who to contact for more information. The only thing you are required to do is answer the basic census questions name, age, address, race, marital status, citizenship, and the same basic info on everyone who all lives in the house with you. Then they came to my door while I was out of town and left me a note with their name and number. I will not comply. This is all bull. Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. It's a breath of fresh air. This appears to be the same scenario as the ACS. Just sit there and think a minute on what we have in this country and you should feel very ashamed for getting so upset about such petty things. A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit agreed and reversed his conviction. 6 The typical opt out activist is a highly educated, white, married, politically liberal parent whose children attend public school and whose household median income is well above the national average. Too many are dependent on the government already. The Census Bureau does not hire temporary workers to collect data for the American Community Survey. Location-based Community Surveys. I replied I would answer no questions. Where do we call to report this abuse? What is the North American Industry Classification System? Then we find out she is our next-door neighbor! welfare etc. So far no challenges to our door visitors. Objections to the ACS include the personal nature of some of its questions and, despite government assurances to the contrary, associated confidentiality issues. I have a five year old. They again called a few days ago and I answered. If it's not a big deal, then get rid of the census and don't tell me about funding- that's a load of crap! Ethical treatment of survey participants. People, what is so terrible about giving out the number of people who live in your household? "Isn't that enough?" That's four times today and it's just past noon on Saturday. Whether I'm white, black, hispanic, etc., or whether I own or rent my home, makes as much difference to the count of legal U.S. citizens as not having to show your legal or illegal status as a U.S. citizen. They gave up on me. Two weeks later, I received a second call from a different zip code with another lady asking if I still had the ACS form. When I did return it, I left off my personal business. is it market research for business, an academic study, a government program). If he shows up, he'll get the same response (or none at all). And send a Federal Marshal out to write you a ticket. Wake up America! IE: IRS, DOT, Labor and Industry. By the way, from what I read in Title 13, the max they can fine you is $100 for not filling out the form, or max $500 for false information. Don't know if it's the "bureau" calling or not, but I'm ready for them. That didn't stop the harassment, visits leaving notes while I was at work, or conversations asking my neighbors questions about me like I was some criminal or something. The Supreme Court in June rejected an attempt by the Trump administration to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a much more sweeping and comprehensive count of the American population. Explain that their responses will constitute consent to display the video online. With a president and congress that constantly lie about everything, how do they expect me to believe that the information on the Census form is truly confidential? And if I were paranoid, I'd be accusing the census takers of taking my new baby's ss card that has still not arrived in my hands in four months! Some surveys are completed at one time, while others involve multiple interviews. Most Census Bureau calls asking you to participate in a survey other than the 2020 Census originate from one of the following numbers: If you receive a call from the Census Bureau and you would like to independently verify that the number is from the Census Bureau, you can call one of the following numbers: Field representatives who do in-person interviews may also call you. I work for one of the phone centers for the Census Bureau. They are not going to like the possibility that they might end up on YouTube and be linked to all the sites discussing the ACS. Since then, they have called three or four times and stopped by multiple times. That this money is funding from the government, which makes it socialism. Americans must answer U.S. Census Bureau survey by law, though agency hasn't prosecuted since 1970 Bob Cole, who hosts Austin radio station KOKE-FM's weekday morning show, said on the air Jan. 7,. 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