Detectives to revisit unsolved murder. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. Required fields are marked *. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. She was sexually assaulted and strangled and last seen with an American soldier. Psychic Diane Lazarus. The coat had been lying forgotten in police storage for decades but after much searching was found by retired DCI Bethell's cold case team and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Video, 00:01:20WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech, EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other' Video, 00:00:36EU Chief on NI deal: 'We were honest with each other', The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. ", Muriel Drinkwater who was killed in June 1946. Hi Neil. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. We can also deduce it is a average male because he must have had enough power to dominate a 12 year old girl. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. Wife of James Anthony Drinkwater and mother to Carole Suzanne, Stephen Mark, Simon Anthony and Russell John Drinkwater. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. 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Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. In August, the police appealed to the U.S. public for assistance, as many Americans had been stationed in Penllergaer during the recent Second World War and there was a possibility one of the servicemen had sold the weapon. Updated: August 30, 2013 . On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. Something went wrong, please try again later. Taking into consideration all of the above information and the decades that have passed since Muriel was killed, I think that the only way this case will be closed is through a familial DNA match. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. Sadly though, this has proved not to be. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. 'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. Happier times: Alex Murdaugh, Maggie and their sons are the picture-perfect family in never-before-seen photos taken on a hunting trip just a few years before brutal slayings, 'Why isn't he being prosecuted?' From the statements of the day it appeared her mum was making a pot of tea and looked out the window and actually saw Muriel about 500 yards away coming up the track towards the farmhouse. Thanks again and take care. It doesnt take much working out who the unnamed source with South Wales Police was! [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. Brutally beaten, raped and shot twice, the discovery of Swansea schoolgirlMuriel Drinkwater's body in 1946 horrified an entire community. And the truth will never be known. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Read about our approach to external linking. Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest daughter of four born to Margaret and John Percival Drinkwater, a smallholder and forestry worker in Swansea, Wales. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. ~ Christine. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. Victor told me that he had seen a T.V. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. Learn more about managing a memorial . More here: https://bit.ly/WoodlawnJaneDoe. "South Wales Police has had considerable success with cold case reviews being one of the first forces in the country to set up a review team in 1999 to conduct cold case reviews. That DNA was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. Follow. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. Muriel's death was known at the time as the Little Red Riding Hood Murder because of the bright red coat she was wearing. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. There is no doubt about that.". Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. It is frustrating that the Wales Online story of Saturday 7 November states the police have D.N.A. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Thanks again and take care. They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. profiling. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. And no idea and Japanese workers. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. Request number 772/21. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. will do what you suggest. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. Play it now! On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. I informed D.C.I. Positive reviews really help others find our show. [8] A description of a person of interest was circulated; he was described as approximately 30 years old, with "thick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket. Interesting insights! Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Paul.. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest one in the world to . The True Crime Files Norah Irene Bartlett. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. Lloyd-Evans told me that he was convinced that a suspect regarding Muriels murder would soon be identified through D.N.A. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. Filmed as part of documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers, that is being shown on BBC Wales, the name of murderer Ronnie Harries, the last man to have been hanged in Carmarthen, has been put forward by the team that is headed by the former chief constable of Dyfed Powys Police Jackie Roberts. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Advertisement. Over 20,000 men were interviewed about the crime . She was singing . Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. There was another murder in 1943. Thank you once again and I wish you every success with your forthcoming publication. ~ Christine. found on Muriels coat and D.N.A. I had informed him that Harold Jones had been living incognito in various West London locations after his release from prison in 1941. Muriel Drinkwater was born on January 12, 1906 in New York . It blighted my life. For Hoyles, and no doubt numerous other people in Penllergaer,every dollar spent bringing Muriels killer one step closer to justice has been a dollar well spent. Hi Neil Advertisement. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. Hi Neil. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. You can Google ones in your area or check out Twitter (but I recommend checking their credentials). 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Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County The crime scene is a short distance from the farmhouse. Its her birthday tomorrow, and still no closer to finding her killer. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. Hi Neil. ', Sister of murdered Idaho student Kalyee Goncalves gives birth to baby girl and gives it middle name 'MaddieKay' in tribute to her and slain best friend Maddie Mogen, CDC issues 'serious public health alert' over nationwide spike in drug-resistant stomach bug that infects half a million Americans each year, Mark Walhberg is SLAMMED for presenting SAG Award to Asian cast of Everything Everywhere All At Once following his hate crime conviction for assaulting Asian men in 1988. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample . . Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police, The Disappearance of Audrey Moran and Jonathan Reynoso. Published: 08:03 EST, 1 May 2019 | Updated: 13:00 EST, 1 May 2019. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. [15] There is evidence that Harries was employed by Drinkwater's father, John, at the time of her death. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. Why? Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. "I found the original clothing," he said. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. A US Army Colt .45 service revolver was used to shoot Muriel Drinkwater, 12, in the chest, after her killer had beaten and raped her. They have a suspect in the murder case and a cousin of the suspect has given D.N.A to prove whether or not the cousin Ron Harries was the killer. Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', and have uncovered a new prime suspect. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Despite their inve. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. And I also think there are likely more victims. But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. 2023 BBC. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. It was the 75th anniversary this year, and still we are no nearer to finding her killer. Mudgee General Cemetery. Thanks again! Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was singing as she walked along the mile-long path to her home after getting off a school bus. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head . - Listen to The Unsolved Murder of Muriel Drinkwater by The True Crime Files instantly on your tablet, phone or browser - no downloads needed. People had forgotten it was there. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Welsh author Neil Milkinsargues that Harold Jones,a convicted murderer who killed two girls in Abertillery in 1921 when he was just 15 years old, was Muriels killer. The True Crime Files is dedicated to all things #TrueCrime. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. Hi. Video, 00:01:00View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. This will conclude a 10 year wait to see if Jones was indeed Muriels killer. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. Perhaps one day then there'll still be justice for Muriel Drinkwater - even if it might have to stretch beyond the grave. Thomas was born on July 22 1880, in South Thomaston Knox Maine. 0, Hi Tracey Thanks for reading and for sharing your thoughts on Muriels case. Photo added by Tracey. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. Muriel was murdered 16 years before I was born, but it was a story I had heard from a young age. 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