Build for fire-resistance first, then double back for your other skills. The totals have gone OVER in 3 of Queens' last 5 games. When Florida was first announced, I thought she would immediately obsolete California. I tore California a new one a few months ago for being not worth the asking price. While I do feel that Florida is a superior vessel to California, I don't feel that she's worth it either. Frankly, you're better served picking up Arizona at tier VI or even Alabama at tier VIII instead of Florida. Let me stress this: I don't think Alabama is worth the asking price either, but I would definitely recommend her over Florida. She's more reliable, if dull. The best bang for your buck for American premium battleships is Massachusetts and she's been one of the best premiums you can buy if you're shopping for one. Her primacy isn't challenged by Florida in the least. With Black Friday a little over a month away, if you're in the market for Massachusetts, then you might want to wait a month and grab it when her Black version goes back on sale if you like the cosmetic difference. I don't mean to try and sell you on other ships, my point is simply that there are a lot better choices for your time and money than investing in Florida. Florida played solid defense throughout the night, holding Georgia to 33.3 percent from the field and 18.2 percent from 3-point range (4-of-22) while recording 8 steals and 6 blocked shots. In a way I'm glad there's not a ship named after my home state they can give this sort of treatment to. Her carry potential is limited. While expert players can flex a lot of their in-game knowledge to get more out of Florida's potential, her defensive limitations thwart most attempts to push aggressively. Her guns don't hit hard enough or fast enough and are foiled by even limited angling. Still, she's a nice support ship. If you want to play a more passive, supporting role, Florida works well, especially against CVs. Fair enough. Granted I have California too (mostly due to 1. Historical Ship and 2. Native Californian) but she is a slow girl relegated to sitting However, she has very poor gun fire angles, horrible agility and no appreciable gains in defense all while being up-tiered to tier VII. Carriers must anticipate that she will always have Defensive AA Fire ready and it's best to bait its use by ducking in and out of her 5.8km bubble and then waiting it out, even if she's not your primary target. Florida is effectively a no-fly zone for tier VI carriers because of this consumable and raw AA power combination which is a pretty impressive boast. Add on a catapult fighter and Florida duplicates this for tier VIII carriers too, at least until she comes under sustained HE attack. Oh no you didn't! Well, this accidentally turned into a much longer review than I had intended. I was originally just going to line up Florida alongside California, compare the two and then pull a surprise-reveal that they both suck equally. Instead, I learned last week that Ship Comrade, the site run by @Critter8 that has hosted my reviews since the first quarter of 2016 was going to close down. Instead of working on how to cleverly cast shade on anyone that enjoyed either one of these tier VII American premium battleships, I spent the better part of two days going through years worth of archived jpegs and text, reflecting on the years I've spent writing for World of Warships and all of the help, support and encouragement Critter8 provided me. With Arizona existing, Wargaming should have either retired the Pearl Harbor monument or dredged up something from their box o' gimmicks for California to compensate. I've sorted these by the formula of [ AA dps x { range - 1km} ]. It's not a perfect system but it does weight heavier, longer-ranged firepower over masses of short-ranged defence. All things told, it's not bad for helping keep shells out (especially when angling). Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. And another premium ship to skip, even Zoup has a different opinion. Flak Bursts: 5 explosions for 1400 damage per blast at 3.5km to 5.8km.Long Ranged (up to 5.8km): 157.5dps at 75% accuracyMedium Ranged (up to 4.0km): 269.5dps at 75% accuracyShort Ranged (up to 2.0km): 318.5dps at 70% accuracy. Along with either A: removing IFHE or B: changing DCP and Repair Party to have slightly faster CD's and Repair Party to fix more pen damage if IFHE stays. Despite all that, what I really like about her is that her guns (while not powerful as you'd expect, which is mentioned) are fairly accurate at all but extreme range. I also like her secondaries, as they have decent enough accuracy and reach out to 6.6 with aft+flag. The single 5" guns tend to land their hits a lot vs the dual 5" guns (though that is not be saying much considering. There's lots of ways they could have gone about it, though I think the most elegant solution would have been to give her 32mm structural plate on her bow, stern, deck and upper hull, akin to a tier VIII battleship. Florida is pretty much a normal tier VII battleship with an exposed, vulnerable citadel and weak Repair Party. They have averaged 3.5 goals per game (35 total) over that stretch. The historical design was called for a ship with nine 250 mm guns in three triple turrets with two superfiring at the front and one at the rear. Uses the improved battlecruiser dispersion instead of that of American battleships. I think the best thing to examine is how worth it is the ship in not just randoms and ranked, but coop and ops. AP penetration is more of a contentious issue for Florida. The average cost of living in Florida is about Her secondary armament is divided into two gun types. The first is the twin 127mm/38 we're used to seeing on every American battleship. But these are supplemented by four single 127mm/38 turrets akin to what you might find on an American destroyer like Benson or Sims. This effectively gives her an eight-gun secondary broadside -- two fewer than you'll see on higher tiered American battleships like North Carolina, the SoDaks, the Iowa-sisters, etc, but it's right on par with California's battery. However, Florida manages to have the equivalent broadside to a ten-gun secondary battery like the higher tiered ships because most American twin 127mm/38 guns have an artificially lowered rate of fire and the singles have a boosted one. Check out this nonsense! You can see just how massive her 35mm anti-torpedo bulges are. Thank you for everything. And thank you all for reading. Oh well, missed opportunities. Taylor Jones. Base/Minimum Surface Detection: 13.5km / 11.79kmBase/Minimum Air Detection Range: 9.69km/ 8.72kmDetection Range When Firing in Smoke: 11.71km. Both wins and 109k average damage. California's AP shells have higher penetration. There's nothing too surprising about California's options. Same with cruisers - they didn't have to cower behind islands like now, they could fire and fade away. Furthermore, it's not going to put off a determined tier VIII carrier even for a moment. California epitomizes the state that chose harsh conformity instead. Shots are coming in from right to left with Fuso bow-tanking. Her turning radius of 760m is decent. It's not amazing, but it's alright. Improved penetration on her AP shells for their calibre. Top Speed: 27 knotsTurning Radius: 760mRudder Shift Time: 15.4 seconds4/4 Engine Speed Rate of Turn: 4.1/s. Has one fewer Repair Party charges than most other battleships. Wargaming will try and sell you this ship bragging that this reach is to California's advantage. I have always been enjoying your reviews, LittleWhiteMouse. Actually, and strangely, 109k dmg each battle. Florida's upgrade choices are pretty dull. Simply put, it's the only thing which makes this ship viable as a tier VII vessel and even then it barely passes muster. In order to land citadel hits, shells must contend with her 35mm anti-torpedo bulge then her 343mm belt and finally her 44mm citadel wall. Florida Scoring. March 1, 2023 10:00 am CT. Auburn baseball plays Florida A&M on Wednesday evening, and if youre wondering how you can watch the action live, youve come to the right place. There's a stigma against lower-calibre guns for having poor penetration performance and this is largely undeserved. American 356mm AP shells, for example, have very good penetration and Florida's is improved even beyond this. She is capable, for example, of penetrating upwards of 400mm worth of plate at 15km. She has more than enough punch to land citadel hits against just about any broadside target, including some of the softer-skinned battleships up to ranges of 20km. So you don't need to worry about Florida not having enough teeth to citadel an Iowa in most encounters, should the opportunity arise. I stress the word opportunity, however.. Tweak are play and all that way, far more interesting. The Soviets infamously have it too. Instead, it's so much thinned out swill with a rancid aftertaste, leaving you to wonder what could have been. In terms of pricing, Legoland Florida is slightly cheaper than Legoland California. Vulnerable, high-water citadel with as little as 285mm worth of armour. Once you start stacking on any other flaws and they just become unpalatable -- and California's gun handling and reload are some pretty wonky flaws, especially when paired with her slow speed. Gnei/Sharn is possibly more fun (depends on each person), but their guns are a lot less punchy compared to Lyon/Ashitaka, so you need to effectively use your torps. The Napoli is based on a preliminary design from Ansaldo for the Soviet Project 22 Heavy cruiser. TALLAHASSEE Flexing his power over one of Floridas largest employers, Gov. Now that said, with this high-profile release covered and my feels (hopefully) clearly broadcast, I'm taking some much needed time off. Great work . as usual. Her protection scheme is otherwise fine though her snoot is a huge weak spot. Colorado at least manages 19.2 knots under heavy manoeuvres. As we've already covered, she doesn't really have that much better of a chance of doing so than Arizona. California's protection scheme is decent for a tier VII battleship but it's nothing special either short of her anti-torpedo protection (which is good but not as amazing as the size of her bulges would suggest). As far as gimmicks go, it's downright laughable in the current meta. California is a slow reloading, reasonably accurate 356mm armed battleship. If she can't be powerful, she needs to be interesting and she fails at that utterly. The Wildcats score just 1.4 fewer points per game (67.4) than the Gators give up (68.8). They need to get rid of that junk mod they added that makes it all torps are spotted at 1.8 km cause especially against slower torps, like USN's, there's almost no excuse to not dodge torps if you take it. Take this review lightly. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. I HATE w I was looking forward to this review because I was unsure about if I was going to spend some dosh on Florida as a USN fan. If Florida was a battleship from any other nation, there would be very little worth noting here. After an impressive week that saw the Tigers go 3-1-1, Auburn begins a new week by welcoming in Florida A&M to Plainsman Park for a I wish this could have meant more than it does. Her top speed of 27 knots is completely acceptable for a tier VII battleship. But again, Arizona is a thing. This ship has been provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes -- I did not have to pay for this thing, which is a good thing because I would have felt offended had I shelled out money for this horribly mistreated piece of history. The biggest advantage here is her increased range with the rest largely being window-dressings. Thus her range becomes even more important. California's secondaries are crap and they didn't have to be. All they had to do was drop the reload down to sub 30 seconds and I think more people would be interested in her. in other words, you are more likely to find claifornians in claifornia than floridians in florida Florida had a cumulative rate as much as 84% higher than Californias last fall. Hood is listed without DFAA active, just know that the numbers shown here jump by 50% when she pulls the trigger. I don't want to touch California. When it comes to my battleships, I know what I like. Here's a better view of how deep California's belt extends. But her bow? As easy as border-humping battleships can be, Florida asks a bit more of players in order to get her to perform. Neither her AP or HE shells are idiot proof, requiring players to be dynamic with their ammunition choices. That's bad enough, but even when you have the right ammo loaded for the right target, her anemic shells leave a lot to be desired, especially with so long of a reload. Even her good improved accuracy can be a bit of a turn off -- at least with bad dispersion even a poorly aimed shot might have something strike the target. Finally, this ship just feels cumbersome with sloppy handling, a slow reload and sluggish turret traverse. I admit a terrible reluctance to call any battleship's AA firepower "good". This said, when a pristine Florida activates her Defensive AA Fire and doubles her DPS, she has good AA firepower. So imagine my disappointment when, against all advice, Wargaming stuck to their guns and pulled a copy-paste job of USS Arizona's performance and tacked it onto California. Mileage probably determined on if you want a premium USN BB for Narai or not. And I'm a Native CAn. However, California's an important release and, more pressingly, I don't feel she's a good ship. You can find a Pow Wow somewhere close to you! California is very sneaky for a tier VII battleship. I love my standards -- I love them to death. You probably want Expert Marksman over Adrenaline Rush on your first pass. The totals have gone OVER in 7 of Queens' 11 last games at home. Coz no mehbote to gudbote rating. Remember when they said rebuiled West Virginia would be to powerful at tier7. Tier VII battleship. Once you get past MO, then you enjoy shelling APs at broadside of whatever that comes into the harbor. Compared to the 380mm, 406mm and 410mm shells being thrown about by some of her tier mates, their individual shell performance is middling at best. The following is a review of USS Florida, the tier VII American premium battleship. I did not pay for this ship. It was provided to me by Wargaming for evaluation purposes. To the best of my knowledge, the statistics discussed in this review are current as of patch 0.9.9. Please be aware that her performance may change in the future. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. Arizona is "long ranged" for a tier VI battleship once you install Gun Fire Control System Modification 1, so you largely duplicate California's schtick there too. This is why I prefer Lyon over them, but Gnei/Sharn are quite good for Narai too. Rather than look for something new or novel, Wargaming played it safe. Sure -- they have better range and much better sigma than New Mexico's. So here's California's main selling feature. Florida basketball got back on the winning track on Tuesday night with a 77-67 win over the Georgia Bulldogs on the road in the penultimate regular-season game for the Gators. LittleWhiteMouse, October 12, 2020 in General Game Discussion. She might not be physically present in the heat of combat, but her reach should allow her to at least offer some contribution while she lags way in the back. Yet CDC data indicates that California's death rate is gaining ground on Florida, with seven-day average daily deaths at 1.4 per 100,000 residents, compared to Florida's 0.8 per 100,000. If I can help others avoid that, I will. But generally, they should be returned to their previous roles that CL were better DD hunters, while CA stood a better chance vs BB's as opposed to 152 m death rain that melts everything. with florida you a lot of retired folk from around the country. Wargaming knows it too. As a result, Florida is growing; and California is watching an out-migration of the wealthy, the middle class and major employers. Good concealment with a surface detection as low as 11.8km. You have a lot to learn from Ms. Florida and California responded to the COVID-19 pandemic in vastly different ways, but comparing outcomes isn't so simple. WebThere are thousands of Pow Wows held across North American. California uses New Mexico's 356mm/50 caliber guns rather than Arizona's 356mm/45s. The last piece of her squishy puzzle is her effective health pool. Florida's hit point pool is small for a tier VII battleship. Heck, it would be on the low end for a tier VI battleship. This isn't enough to damn her in of itself -- she's not so low that she's on Viribus Unitis levels of parody. But a smaller hit point pool means that she heals less penetrating damage with her Repair Party. While this has no impact on fire and flooding damage (as their damage amount scales with the starting hit points of the ship), 10,000 damage worth of penetrations hurts Florida more than other tier VII battleships. But there's more. Florida comes with one fewer charges of her Repair Party, so this deficit is felt even more.. Thank you a lot! However this gap isn't quite as pronounced as the difference in speed would suggest as Arizona has higher Krupp, a coefficient WG uses to directly modify penetration values. I think she's too soft to be good enough to be a true BB and that makes it doubly hard when paired at top or mid tier where you are expected to be the beater for your team. Jones Angell, play-by Queens are 9-8 in their road games against the spread. Can only snipe and cannot take hits at all. I'm left to wonder what the point of California's design implementation as is. California's citadel (in yellow) is fully submerged well below the waterline. Yet CDC data indicates that California's death rate is gaining ground on Florida, with seven-day average daily deaths at 1.4 per 100,000 residents, compared to Build for fire-resistance first, then double back for your other skills. Florida struggles even more. Don't brawl. You'll die. We already got that game play and at a better price and matchmaking. Ostensibly, California's range is supposed to help her here. Everyone has their preferences but it's not bad. The first element is symptomatic of American battleships as a whole, especially the new line of American battleships that Florida heralds. At 33.5 seconds per volley, Florida's reload isn't as bad as some of the others in the new tech-tree, but let's not mince words: It sucks to wait that long between trigger pulls. I can stomach this if the results for waiting are particularly amusing, however Florida's gunnery is an exercise in frustration for me because of my second gripe: Florida's shell hits are not satisfying. Florida's shells, both AP and HE, don't hit especially hard. Their damage values are lower than you might expect for a 356mm weapon. In fact, Florida's damage output on her AP and HE shells is most closely matched by those off the sixteen-gun Lyon. Lyon has only a 30 second reload, I remind you, 3.5 seconds faster than Florida with a four-gun advantage. Compare: Her individual hits just aren't doing as much damage as other American battleships. While she still has better broadside weight than the ten-gun armed New York-class, she's well behind the other twelve-gun armed American standards despite having a better reload time than all of them. This deficit in shell damage (combined with her slower reload) means that in terms of raw damage potential, Florida falls way behind, ending up in the bottom half of the DPM charts despite her large number of guns. She has greatly improved anti-aircraft firepower and she's more stealthy. This might have worked had Arizona not been on offer -- California would have been more rightly compared to New Mexico and her strengths would seem obvious. I should preface this by saying that I love the American standard-type battleships. You are usually not shot at by much due to how target selection of bots works, so Florida's armor won't be a big issue even with the short combat range in OPs. Floridas games this season have gone over 6.5 goals 37 of 62 times. I think they are some of the most interesting warships of the Second World War. They could make West Virginia 1944 / 1945 fit at tier VIII for crying out loud. You joke but I warned the devs of this exact thing. For me, Lyon is the best BB for Narai, Ashitaka being the second, due to their speed and DPM. ATHENS Georgia basketball battled back but could not overcome its 12-point second half deficit to Florida. Based on this contests moneyline, Southern has an implied win probability of 76.2%. +1 upboat for the review. It's such a bloody shame. The issue, though, is that they're not improved enough over the tier VI premium's to be worthwhile. Florida's fire angles are decent. They're not good -- good is a 300 fire arc or more, but she's not as appalling as some of the ships I've dealt with recently. I just wish her turret traverse was better. Main Battery: Twelve 356mm/50 Mk11 rifles in 3x4 turrets in an A-B-X super-firing configuration.Secondary Battery: Sixteen 127mm/38 guns in 6x2 turrets and 4x1 turrets. She doesn't have a nigh-impervious citadel like Scharnhorst and Gneisenau. Mouse, while knowledgeable, is subject to her own personal biases, likes, preferences, just like the rest of us. . Ouch. I don't know why Wargaming decided to neuter Florida's fire setting so badly. I guess this will encourage players to reach for AP whenever possible. Keep in mind that these values do not include the fire resistance of their opponents nor the ship's accuracy. Fire resistance values against the opponents Florida usually faces is anywhere between 30% to 45% or so. So if you're managing to hit with 1/3 of Florida's shells against a tier VIII target, then instead of 4 fires and change, you're more likely going to see one per minute. Maybe. She doesn't have boosted HE shell damage the way Japanese and British battleships do, so she's kind of lackluster there. 356mm guns lack overmatching ability against targets with 25mm+ extremities. Deposit $200, Get $250. The North Carolina Tar Heels (18-11, 10-8 ACC) and Florida State Seminoles (9-20, 7-11) tangle Monday in Tallahassee. She could have ended up like Poltava with a max of 4 charges of heals. For randoms it looks like she is a really tough ship to play, but what about Operations like Narai?, I give this rating 5 out of 10. Despite their outdated designs, they went on to not only find a role in the fast-modernizing US Navy but they went on to engage triumphantly in one of the final battleship surface actions in history. 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